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Post by froman on Sept 3, 2005 20:15:04 GMT -5
We had a discussion in English yesterday about perfection, and somebody came up with the notion that empty space is perfect.
Perfection must be a constant. That is, since it is always completely flawless in all ways, then it cannot change.
Emptyness, not existing, cannot be flawed. Since it is not flawed, it is flawless, and therefore is perfect.
Working from the basis that space is perfect, and since everything else is imperfect, it logically follows that moving something into empty space causes that space to cease being perfect.
If you somehow then filled up the entire universe with imperfect matter, so that there is no empty space left anywhere, you will have in effect destroyed perfection.
That's the problem.
Because perfection is a constant, you cannot destroy it. That leaves two choices.
1. Perfection is not a constant.
2. Space is not perfect.
What do you all think of my reasoning?
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Post by Jadien on Sept 3, 2005 20:41:53 GMT -5
I think that Space is not perfect. Because how can we know nothing is there unless we're there, causing it to be IMPERFECT? or perhaps. There is no perfection. None whatsoever.
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Post by darshendros on Sept 3, 2005 21:56:48 GMT -5
I will not fall for your Commie mind tricks!
Perfection is impossible. Give it up. Nothing's perfect. Space is flawed because there's no such thing as "empty space". It's filled will all sort of junk that you can't see. Empty space is nothingness, and nothingness does not exist. You should slap that person.
Are you going to ask next if nothingness exists if we believe in it? And so if nothingness is believed, then it does exist, which means it has to be something?
YOU...! *head explodes*
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Post by froman on Sept 3, 2005 22:36:18 GMT -5
Emptyness does exist. If it didn't, we'd all be about 43279237492478924892349823478943 degrees, crushed, and dead.
Remember your chemistry class? An atom is mostly empty space. It's like a marble in the middle of a football field, with another marble spinning around the parking lot.
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Post by darshendros on Sept 4, 2005 12:24:30 GMT -5
P'ha! It's not empty if there's something there, no matter how small it is.
The closest thing to perfection is a circle. None are more close than the circle. If you listened in Geometry class you'd know this!
Circles!
oOoOoOo
*Twirls around and falls over*
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Post by Tipahurate on Sept 5, 2005 0:03:01 GMT -5
Nah, I'm perfect. End of discussion.  -Tipahurate |
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Post by magicbullet on Sept 8, 2005 14:18:56 GMT -5
You guys are all idiots. Perfection is a matter of perception, numbnuts. Why would something be 'perfect' if nobody is observing it? Thus empty space cannot be perfect, since it cannot be percieved. Something is only perfect to an observer. Perfection is not some quality like spin or density that something has by law, it is merely a label attached to something by an observer.
Therefore, if you think it's perfect, it MUST be perfect.
Duh
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Post by Jadien on Sept 8, 2005 21:12:15 GMT -5
Emptyness does exist. If it didn't, we'd all be about 43279237492478924892349823478943 degrees, crushed, and dead. Remember your chemistry class? An atom is mostly empty space. It's like a marble in the middle of a football field, with another marble spinning around the parking lot. |
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Post by magicbullet on Sept 8, 2005 21:22:11 GMT -5
No no, it's not 'empty' space. Not necessarily, anyway.
Empty space = no matter, no energy. No waveforms. We haven't found any of that yet
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Post by Tipahurate on Sept 10, 2005 3:02:49 GMT -5
I took chemistry.
It taught me that I was perfect.
God I rule.
I have given so much to this conversation.
-Tipahurate
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